Posted by Pistolprins
What software exists that will allow me to view .PDF-files on my SE K750i?
Posted by masseur
here are a few previous posts on this topic, including alternate solutions such as converting to text etc, but unfortunately I still haven't seen a PDF reader yet
Posted by bt-maniac
I have a siemens application "pdfviewer.jar", i edited the manifest file for k750i, but i cannot run it.Could somebody edit the program?
JAR file -> http://wap.siemens-club.ru/wap/java/prog_x65/PDF_Viewer_1.0.6.jar
JAD file -> http://wap.siemens-club.ru/wap/java/prog_x65/PDF_Viewer_1.0.6.jad
Edited Manifest file ->
http://rapidshare.de/files/12113709/MANIFEST.MF.html
There's something about siemens apps.SE apps don't work on siemens,siemens apps don't work on SE.
Is there any converter like "Siemens java to Sony ericsson java" ?
[ This Message was edited by: bt-maniac on 2006-01-29 20:20 ]
Posted by max_wedge
to do that you need to decompile the class files in the jar. I have the Netbeans and SE IDE's but I don't believe they decompile code. The program needs to be reverse engineered.
Posted by lig
There is aleternative solution:
1. Get Gmail account: http://www.gmail.com/
2. Send your pdf file to your new email address@gmail
3. Point your phone's browser to http://m.gmail.com
4. Open sended letter with pdf-attachment
5. Find link "view as HTML" or something similar (it must be there)...
Posted by bt-maniac
I know.. I can convert my pdf to txt files then readmaniac or something .. but i don't want to do that.If viewing pdf on k750 is impossible,i would do the other ways. Is there a pro about J2ME programming at Esato?
Posted by TeenInvader
I will download that siemens application and try it on my w800i.
Well see, I'll post the editted version if it works.
Posted by bt-maniac
I have Eclipse and J2ME polish. I downloaded a little program,battleship,for nokia(there wasn't SE) and for siemens.Now i am comparing these.Actually,I don't see a big diffrence. For example:
siemens a.class' first code : ......javax.microedition.lcdui.......
s60 a.class' first code: ......com.nokia.mid.ui......
and other codes are same.
I am very tired searching for 1.5 months..I hope somebody can adapt it to SE.
Posted by max_wedge
tried it on K750, it's a no go. "invalid application"
Posted by ares
the good news is that ixalon, the author of file protect, is currently working on a java pdf viewer for SE phones
Posted by max_wedge
Awesome work
With file managers, encrytion, text editors, book readers, web browsers etc, who needs a smart phone? 
Posted by londonlad123
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You might wanna send him the siemens version if he doesnt already have it, might help a lot.
Posted by bt-maniac
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Yeah,that's my goal.Wait, the next thing is coming! DocViewer
It's real, if ixalon can adapt pdfviewer,maybe can adapt the docviewer.So what's next? xlsviewer or ppsviewer? who needs a huge smartphone?
Posted by bt-maniac
Any news about Pdfviewer? Ixalon? Arez?
Posted by S4k1s
k750 is not ment for reading pdf files, get over it
Posted by Pistolprins
Any phone which has Internet access is per defination also meant to be reading PDF!
If a manufactor decide that their phone should have Internet via GPRS, or some other way, they have also automatically committed themselves to making a phone, which can read PDF!
It's as simple as that - Internet and PDF sticks together - Sony Ericsson just hasn't learned that yet!
Posted by TeenInvader
Is it a standard???
Who set that standard?
And how the did the standards regulators allowed SE to release internet phones not capable of reading PDF???
Posted by max_wedge
it's no more a standard than flash, java or any of the other things phone web browsers don't support yet.
pdf is common but proprietary file format.
Posted by S4k1s
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Eeehhhhh, NO!
PDF is a proprietary Adobe file format.
It has nothing to do with internet.
It is not a standard!
Is Adobe Acrobat free to download? No, it costs and it costs a lot!
Many think that Internet and Piracy stick together, does that mean that
should ship cracked programs and tools with their phones or make them available on their site?
Posted by bugsiiy
Ok to make things straight,he was saying that on the internet you find many important documents in pdf format,and you might want to see them on your phone.oh and next time do a litte research,there is the so called adobe acrobat reader,which is free
Posted by S4k1s
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FYI I got both.
I use PDF a lot every day in my work - creating, reading and embedding support for it in applications.
Windows, linux, *nix ... u name it...
However, it is not a standard.
All important/mass market documents are translated to HTML.
Have you ever wondered why you often see this? PDF/Adobe Acrobat - See as HTML-version
Many phones with internet don't even have a real html browser, much less a PDF reader.
The K750 is not a smartphone and never pretended to be one either.
Edit: If I seem hostile, I'm not, really I'm not :]
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Posted by max_wedge
the reader is free but you have to pay Adobe if you want to design a program or device that outputs in the pdf format. Whereas, text files, jpeg images, sound files etc are based on open standards. You don't have to pay anyone to create software that outputs a jpeg file for example.
We all get that the reader is free, but so far Adobe haven't seen fit to produce a mobile phone j2me reader. Don't blame the phone companies for lack of a j2me version of adobe reader - blame adobe.
Posted by S4k1s
Here is more info about some projects going on for creating Java PDF readers/writers. You will find usefull libraries there, if you have the time for it thats it...
Posted by max_wedge
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Thanks for those links. I'm gonna have a look, but I don't know java and have only just started to learn. I still don't know if you have to rewrite a java class for j2me or if you can just use it direct
So I don't know if I'll get far in the short term.
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well i hope my case is different... I LOVE PROGRAMMING, its just that PROGRAMMING HATES ME!!!!
mwehehehehehe
Posted by max_wedge
you design, I'll debugg and test
Posted by S4k1s
lol @ both of you :]
Posted by atisnz
Adobe Acrobat IS Standard: http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/standards/main.html
Posted by rockygali
does the ISO certification a bearing for all standardization process...
errr, am i hitting any point here? hehehe.. well i thought having the ISO certification proves a product of its standards...
eerrrr or was it quality?
Posted by S4k1s
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Did you check your link and read what it actually says?
"Adobe and industry standards"
It says that Adobe Acrobat is now compliant with industry standards including PDF/A, PDF/X, and PDF/E, not that it is a standard it self.
That particular link says that Adobe PDF is now compliant with the PDF/X that is the PDF printing ISO standard.
The ISO standards are a quality measurement.
Not a standard as in "Everybody uses it" but as in "Everybody uses it the same way"
Posted by max_wedge
pdf files do conform to a standard, but there is no "internet" standard that says a device MUST support pdf reading. In fact even IE doesn't do it out of the box - you need to install the ADOBE designed IE plug-in.
So it's up to Adobe, not SE, to make with the J2ME pdf reader.
The PDF standard relates to how the document is structured, not where it will be used (as S4k1s said).
Posted by rockygali
now i really understand this thread... thanx maxie!
Posted by optiplex
Actually why doesn't Adobe do it? Already there are pdf readers for smart phones and one Java based reader for Siemens (as stated earlier in the thread). So it shouldn’t be much of a problem, right? Besides; if they come up with a solid J2ME pdf reader, that will do lot of good for pdf reputation/standard with relatively little effort from Adobe.
Posted by rockygali
yes indeed.. adjustments are from the roots to the stem not the other way around... got it!
Posted by max_wedge
agree optiplex (and rockgali - like your analogy
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Adobe could easily whip one of these out and it would indeed improve the circulation of the pdf format.
Posted by cped
this is cool
Posted by brera
Anyone can write a Java-based PDF reader without paying royalties to Adobe because PDF is most definitely an 'Open Standard', and has been for years. This is one of the main reasons why it triumphed over other competing formats in the mid-Nineties. Indeed, Apple chose PDF as the on-screen drawing paradigm for Mac OS X instead of the superior Display PostScript format because PDF was free
and Display PostScript wasn't.
You can find more information about the PDF standard here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]loper/pdf/index_reference.html
http://partners.adobe.com/pub[....]pport/topic_legal_notices.html
Posted by max_wedge
yes but for years you had to pay licence fees to adobe to design software that outputs pdf files.
So it was an open standard, but only for viewing. That's not quite the same thing as a jpeg file for example, which is truly free and open.
The adobe format was "common" because adobe allowed a free viewer, how nice of them. But "open" and "common" are two different things.
It's only in the last year or two that cheap (legal) pdf creation alternatives to Adobe Professional have come about. This is because adobe finally relaxed their licencing and made it more affordable for developers to make pdf creation software.
Posted by slugworth
heres an idea, for the money u spent on the phone you could of brout a cheep old P3 or P2 laptop and used that to read ur PDF's on the move lol
and even used the phone to browse the net
holy $!*7 the boy has a brain 
Posted by w800br
The thing is that we don't want our phones to become a smartphone, but what we want is a REALLY GOOD MULTIMEDIA phone, what it was intended to be, So thats why many users wants the ability to read PDF files in the phone.
Besides this, It would be really cool if we could read e-books (and this is not just PDF format but chm too [which can be converted to html and perfect read in the phone with bultin browser])
The question that still remains is... the phone can support an J2ME PDF reader?
Posted by slugworth
i like my idea better
Posted by fanbanlo
Pdf reader and Movie player playing at native res with fast forward for W800/K750 are two programs i've been waiting for...
Posted by solja786
mayb this has been mentioned before mayb not..i didnt read the whole thread properly..jus scanned through
but wat about picsel viewer ...samsung d600 has it and it allows u to view pdf and word documents..so how about a java picsel viewer or one for SE.
or is it only usable wid samsungs
Posted by slugworth
PDF files via the web take to long to D/l (on GPRS) so its gonna cost u a fortune why do people neeed this feture? USE UR PC OR A LAPTOP?! its a mobile not a pc
Posted by w800br
I've found an solution for those who wants to read E-Books on W800 or K750i, Don't know if it would be usefull for other type of PDF usage but...
There is a program called PDF2CHM, which convert PDF to HTML files and then u have the possibilty to convert to CHM files.
The good thing about this program is that it converts to html with the images that were in the PDF, you just have to select in the program to convert the images to jpg format because it standart setting is to convert to png files, so it opens very slowly on the phone.
But this program is just perfect for that purpouse, keeps the file like it was and with the images, and then with builtin browser you can easily read.
If the book is in CHM format is even easier (should had I typed this with y?). There's a program, which unfurtunately I can't remember the name, that extract html files from the CHM, because CHM is made of inumerous html files. So with the proper program you can extract those files and read in the phone.
Although this is not an solution for viewing PDF files, it surely is for those who want's to read E-books in the phone in PDF or CHM format.
Hope this had helped someone and sorry for my english.
Posted by rjshnagar
On 2006-01-29 19:50:03, Pistolprins wrote:
What software exists that will allow me to view .PDF-files on my SE K750i?
Posted by Edita
This software exists now. There is a new Reader of Adobe PDF documents for J2Me devices.
Posted by c_vignesh
Browsing the net I came across these three interesting apps
mobileDoc
MobileZip
mobilePdf ( tried the trial version..it worked ...but page loading was slow on my K550i )
If anyone interested all are available here
http://zesium.com/index.php?o[....]tent&task=view&id=20&Itemid=28
Pity that nothing is a FREE version
Posted by encarta
Any other applications or app from Edita the only one?
Posted by iG012
whent i try to open a pdf file with mobilePdf appears a message saying that the file cannot be read.