Posted by kenx3000
Right now SE's been quite quiet for a while. Its always scary when a phone company is quiet because there might be surprises just like when K700, S700, S710a, Z500a pop out and barely anyone knew it was coming (well except people that got a preview of the pictures and video[doesn't count]). In my opinion, SE knows Z500a, T290 release isn't what most people are desired in (well for most people). People desired in K700i's specs with Memory Expansion in both new Candy Bar and Flip Type. Don't you think SE knows what we think? They might already planned this NEW phone, but no one knows about it. It might just pop out just like the older phones.
The Best flip phone in GSM network is only the Z600, and Z500a and Z200 couldn't substitute it. SE had been quiet on the flip phones and I'm aware that they're going to release a flip phone with a Medium-Class specs that are close to people's desire. Not that I heard rumors, but its just feelings.
Think about before Z600 came out, people wanted T610 in a flip phone form and what happened? Voila! Z600 pop out with its brother Z200. Now K700i had been on the mid-range market for a while, but the flip phone market seems really quiet. Samsung, Nokia, Motorola are throwing out all these phones, but SE? barely keeps up. Who knows SE might announce a great mid-range phone before Christmas and would be ready to sell in Q2 2005 that's my feelings to this.
K700i IS a great phone, but if they added Memory Expansion, we couldn't ask more. May be K710? S700 could substitute the other form of K700i, but how many people are used to the new swivel style? Flip phones still holds its popularity and I know SE knows! What do you guys think? Thnx for Reading my opinion and feelings!
[ This Message was edited by: kenx3000 on 2004-11-02 00:58 ]
Posted by sieg dante
welcome to esato !!
em..actually i am waiting se to release a clamshell version of k700.. but they din't release any news about that..
Posted by vineet_d
Yeah I was the proud owner of Z600 but had to sell it
coz did'nt had enough money to buy a k700i. Now i am satisfied with my k700 but still wanted a p910
Posted by benrk
I share these bad feelings about SE, as I do not understand their product politics.
With every1 releasing new phones for x-mas SE is under pressure eventhough they have great phones that should work for every1, but this is an old Ericsson problem. There is always a reason for people to dislike the one or the other phone & most people do not have a clue, they just buy what they like or are advised to do so, therefor you need more variety even if it does not really make sense as there's almost no difference in the specs. T290 & J200 are a good step in this direction, but not enough.
urgently missing phones in the product line in my opinion are:
K700 w/ extendable memory
K700 clamshell
V800 free version
non touchscreen symbian like SX1; 7610(?)
3G smartphone
Some gadget phone, uncompareble, like the study w/ this double flip screen
I can only hope SE is surprising everybody w/ a big offense of new models for x-mas sales whithin the next few weeks, though I doubt it as there are almost no leaks of info, I hope they just fixed the leaks.
A K700 clamshell is one thing I'm waiting for as well. My T610 is becoming a bit outdated & I always loved flip phones, clamshells w/ 2nd display are a pretty good substitude. I would have bought a Z600 but the reception in 1800MHz networks is just too bad, so my provider doesn't sell it. I like S700 as well, but it's just too expensive as a toy in between for someone waiting for a proper 3G.
Yes, SE does know very well what we are thinking, they read these forums as well!
I hope SE is not falling back again as bad as Ericsson did.
[ This Message was edited by: benrk on 2004-11-03 12:05 ]
Posted by Krubach
Well i think
wont announce anything before Christmas.
The "time-to-market" for a product announced now wouldn't be before christmas, and that would make people wait for those new phones, hence leaving the actual line-up on the shelfs.
I think they want to sell what they have now, and announce new products for the new year.
Posted by benrk
Well, I said I HOPE they would release new models for x-mas, just like Nokia did w/ their new low end phones, anounce them this week, bring them to the shops next week, don't keep people waiting for months.
This does not mean I believe SE will do so
Posted by scotsboyuk
Why are people so impatient and cynical? It seems to be that if SE don't release a perfect product once every other day then we get the usual round of questions;"Are SE falling apart?", "Is SE failing?", "Why are SE doing so badly?"
SE will announce new products when they are good and ready, perhaps they have decided not to announce them at the same time as Nokia to gain maximum publicity and impact.
I am sure SE will have a range of new models available soon, probably next year, but then again they may surprise us with a few pre-Christmas announcements.
Posted by *Jojo*
@kenx3k - I don't think that they are still up to something this time . . . as the year 2004 will soon come to a close, I don't think that they'll have some more releases to announce! Maybe by next year mate, as they would have just been so tired with their successive emitting of a number of models during the 3rd and 4th quarter of this year . . .
Posted by Asterix
Why we always compare SE and Nokia?, maybe SE won't release any more models until next year, just because they think is best.
I don't think SE has to release a new model everytime Nokia does, they're different companies with different market strategies.
Posted by *Jojo*
@asterix- The way I see SE's present moves of releasing quite a handful of units this year ... it's just an obvious reason that they are joining the bandwagon, that is of Nokia - fone proliferation at it's BEST!
Posted by scotsboyuk
@Asterix
I agree with you old man, comparisons cannot always be direct.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2004-11-04 16:50 ]
Posted by richardlusty
Hi everybody. I feel sony ericsson has been doing an awful lot in the uk in the run up to xmas. firstly they released the k500 only a short while ago. its price aint too bad and it beats the nokia competition as far as pay and go is concerned. Plus in my shop they just released the z600 on pay and go for £100 and it comes with £15 free call credit! Now £85 for that phone is brilliant. On the contract range, there is the T630 for those that dont need all the most modern features, the k700 for those that want the modern features, and the s700's for those with more money than sense such as myself!
So the last thing that sony ericsson should do is flood the market with tons of phones all the time. that would only confuse consumers and when they are trying to drag people away from nokia that is the last thing the company needs. Since workin in a phone shop, i swear the around 95% of the phones i sell are sony ericsson, so if u ever come to northern ireland and see any1 with a sony ericsson phone, likely hood is... i converted them!
Posted by scotsboyuk
@richardlusty
Which shop do you work in?
Posted by skaroger867
i believe that SE didnt want to push some new phone out there just for x-mas to make a few quick bucks. but just to put that extra time into the new phones and make them worth the wait. i for one cant wait to see the line up
Posted by icedog445
Just letting you know Nokia isnt the least bit worried about SE taking their market share.Its samsung and Motorola that they are worried about.Especially samsung because they have a lot of momentum and are the quickest growing Mobile Phone Manufacturer by a lot.Not 100%..correct me if I'm wrong. SE should not be compared to Nokia but rather siemens and LG because those are SE main competitors.Sure Nokia and SE have phones that rival each other but Nokia is not going to waste its time fighting SE which has i think 7 or 8 % of the marketshare.Nokia is trying to defeat Samsung and Motorola to reclaim its spot as the best known mobile phone carrier by a lot.
Posted by jcwhite_uk
Wait a minute! I havent heard that lamborgini are releasing a new car for a while. Oh well, they must be going bust!
Posted by WelshTom
guys what you have to remember is that most the people on this site don't represent the main market that the phone manufacturers are concerned with! the big buisness is the middle end phones that your average joe is going to be satisified with not the high end all singing and dancing phones most people on this site crave. and for the main market sony ericsson have just released the k500, right in time for christmas! its a great phone with great features and at a price that makes it accessible to the many on both pay as you go and contract! you just have to look at the size of the marketing campaigne se has launched for this phone to see that they have high hopes for this phone in the run up to christmas, there are adverts everywhere (well at least where i live there are!) also the k700 although a few months old is still right up there with the best phones! and has seen out its 'introducrtion' period and as such is now being offered for free with most contracts! this is simply a superb phone and for free - who can complain?! i agree it is frustrating waiting for new models but the high end phones, such as p1000 or whatever it will be called, simply dont have as big a market and are v.expensive to develop! this why they are released few and far between! se has actually been v.clever by improving the p900 and bringing out the p910 as it has breathed a final bit of life into the p9*0 series just in time for christmas to atract a few more sales. i don't expect a new p series phone untill Q3 next year and i dont think it matters as i feel the p9*0 phones are still amazing phones that are ahead (in my opinion) or at least equal to the competition and i dont see any new phones on the horrizon from any manufacturers that will change this! when the P1000 comes out it will blow us away! but we must be patient! and as for sony ericsson falling behind - i think you are very much mistaken!
Posted by kenx3000
True that Sony Ericsson shouldn't be compared with Nokia, but with Siemens? Nah, Siemens is pretty much the bottom line for Market. Sony Ericsson shouldn't be compared to Nokia in terms of marketing but phones issues we look to should be compared. Nokia had been hurt enough on T610's first relase and Samsung who had been knocking Nokia's head very hard. Sony E is slowly gaining at a slow pace, but my worries is its too slow for them. Nokia's high end phone couldn't compete with SE's high end phone since SE is better in phone matters, but SE's price is why people decided to choose other product since it's too high comparing to Nokia's low price.
In my opinion, SE does release good phones, but it doesn't meet majority of people's needs. K500i's release could fight on market, but would it be able to fight against Nokia phones that comes out 2-5 phones at a time and rapidly? No and I haven't even mentioned other phone companies that are also releasing phones. Main issue should also be SE's pricing since they couldn't press down the price as low as Nokia's that's the main reason SE is going at a very slow pace. If SE's phone price is equal to Nokia then SE would be better off.
My main post is about Flip phones that SE had been very quiet about it. Z500a isn't the solution to people's needs. SE knows K700 flip phone form is also people's needs. They will release it, but may be just not quite yet. Flaws on K700i had been all over the place on Memory Expansion issue and also Megapixel camera and EDGE. S700i and S710a could substitute the main issue, but its still new to GSM markets and people still remain with flip phones. SE will improve similar to V800 but not vodafone branded. But even if the best phones came out, the price will make SE lose their customers since its way too high. What I also said is that SE never actually release 1 phone, they come in more than 1 and in both candy bar and flip designs. Just like whtn Z600 and T630 came together and people choose for themselves. That's what we want for the K700i and S700i that it comes in other forms.
Posted by sieg dante
I heard that samsung is ready to beat nokia by next year
Posted by duo_m
huh?