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lucyindie
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Posted: 2003-07-22 05:10
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Before I buy my T610 I dont want to screw up the battery so I want to know the answer to the following:

1. Re: initial charge, does it have to be INITIAL? OR can I have it plugged in the store for a few minutes just to check if its running, then do the "initial" charge at home

2. If the phone is authentically new, will the battery have some power in it or will that mean it has been use?

3. lithium polymer? no memory effect? some say if you drain it before charging you lose memory effect. what is the score?

mav
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Posted: 2003-07-22 06:57
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I think given the vast amount opinions about phone charging that it's suffice to say very few, if anyone here, knows what they're talking about!
dlreyes
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Posted: 2003-07-22 07:54
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If you want to be safe, then just follow what is written in the manual... charge until full.
masseur
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Posted: 2003-07-22 08:13
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1. You won't need to charge in store to check because...
2. ...yes the T610 battery has some charge in it
3. lithium polymer has a better life if is not totally drained so when it gets to 10% or so then stick it on charge.
wrath000
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Posted: 2003-07-22 08:38
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The battery is partly charged but you shouldn't use the phone untill you charge it completely. The first time you charge, simply charge untill it stops charging. No point in having it in the charger longer then that since the charging circuits will be automatically cut off anyway.

As masseur said, the Li-Po batteries have no memory effect so there is no need to discharge the battery completely before you charge it again. However since the ammount of charges before the battery starts loosing performance is limited (500-1000 times), it might be a bad idea to stick it in the charger more then neccessary.
rhade
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Posted: 2003-07-22 11:13
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"charge until full"
how do u tell when its full?
ive never heard it beep or say its full
do u just keep charging till the battery bar stop moving?
Carlsb3rg
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Posted: 2003-07-22 11:14
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i usually use almost half of the battery each day, and leave it on charge all night. any effects ?
wrath000
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Posted: 2003-07-22 11:17
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rhade: Yes, charge untill the battery indicator stops moving
Carlsb3rg: No negative effects, but you might want to minimize the number of charges to prolong battery life as much as possible. But it's really just a matter of convenience
justywusty
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Posted: 2003-07-22 11:34
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i actually read that it hurts your lithium batteries if you let them die. you should just charge it before it gets below 25% and your battery will stay good.

wrath000
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Posted: 2003-07-22 11:35
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The phone shuts off automatically before the battery dies, so no need to worry about that.
Carlsb3rg
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Posted: 2003-07-22 15:51
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Thanks for the info wrath
lucyindie
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Posted: 2003-07-23 05:17
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wrath000: i shouldnt use it till i fully charge it? wont i have to turn in on in the store?
dlreyes
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Posted: 2003-07-23 07:15
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I still use my original battery for my T68 purchased October 2001 and just leave it connected to the charger whenever i can... It has outlasted most people's batteries considering that they bought their units way later than mine.

I am a heavy user for voice and data.

[ This Message was edited by: dlreyes on 2003-07-23 06:17 ]
wrath000
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Posted: 2003-07-23 09:02
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lucyindie: I see no reason why you should have to turn it on in the store. If you absolutely have to, I am sure a minute of ON time won't kill the battery, but it's not recommended
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simon69c
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Posted: 2003-07-23 09:49
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Not quite wrath - the first time you charge the phone you should leave it on charge a couple of hours after the charge cycle appears to have been completed. The charging circuits aren't completely turned off at the 'end of charge' and the trickle charge is required to ensure that the whole cell is completely charged as the battery's circuitry won't be properly calibrated initially (and will indicate to the charger that charging is 'complete' before it actually is). The manual points out that you should leave the phone on charge for about 5 hours or so for the first charge IIRC. Charging after that should only take a couple of hours at most.
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