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goldenface
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
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Posted: 2015-05-26 21:04
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I like the natural colours of the Xperia cams. I know we have been arguing about this on Esato for decades but who really looks at photos up close to examine pixels in ultra minute detail?

I certainly don't.
josephnero
Sony Xperia Z5
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Posted: 2015-05-26 21:59
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@goldenface
Agreed
Gitaroo
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Posted: 2015-05-27 05:34
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battery is downgraded, but definitely not as bad as I thought.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/s[....].php?p=165257319&postcount=251

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Z2
3200 mAh minimum
Talk time: up to 19 hours***
Standby time: up to 740 hours***
Music listening time: Up to 120 hours***
Video playback time: Up to 10 hours***

Z3
3100 mAh
Talk time: up to 16 hours***
Standby time: up to 920 hours***
Music listening time: up to 130 hours***
Video playback time: up to 10 hours***

Z3+
2930 mAh
Talk time: up to 17 hours
Standby time: up to 590 hours
Music listening: Up to 91 hours
Video playback: Up to 580 min

Music playback is shorter than before, could it be that it has a dedicated AMP now? Now I am more curious to see how Sony deal with the performance throttling of s810. Consider the Z3+ waterproofing means it seal tight, it will be much harder to solve than other devices unless Qualcomm really tweak the hardware itself.
McKinley
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Posted: 2015-05-27 06:07
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I am impressed they managed to get almost 10 hours of video playback with a smaller battery.
What I would want to know is how many hours of web surfing you can get.

About the Snapdragon 810. Is it possible this is a later revision of the SoC itself with a lot of the quirks sorted?

I actually feel excited to get the Xperia Z3+.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2015-05-27 05:08 ]
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doministry
Sony Xperia Z2
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Posted: 2015-05-27 13:43
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So the difference between Z2 and Z3+ in battery size is significant.
Yes it's a good question - how much the smaller battery and new SoC will change
the screen usage time, browsing and things like Maps.
I am sooooooo happy with Z2 in this regard.
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Xajel
Sony Xperia S
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Posted: 2015-05-27 15:49
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It's open for pre-order in Clove.co.uk for GBP 549 including vat, or GBP 457 without

http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-plus

This equals to $842 and $701
josephnero
Sony Xperia Z5
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Posted: 2015-05-27 18:47
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Good overview and some comparsions
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]01/1/rv/sony-xperia-z3-review/


http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-z3-plus-fl.shtml
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doministry
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Posted: 2015-05-28 01:54
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Nice video here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/btekt/videos
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emerson_shei
Sony Xperia Z3
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Posted: 2015-05-28 05:30
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On 2015-05-28 01:54:38, doministry wrote:
Nice video here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/btekt/videos



Manual Focus, Manual ISO And Mainly Manual Shutter Speed... Great, Great News

It Seems That Sony Mobile Is Waking Up, Take Them Back To Have Photographic Excellence Of Yore

Xperia Z3+ More Than Approved
emerson_shei
Sony Xperia Z3
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Posted: 2015-05-28 06:00
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Selfie Camera Comparison: Sony Xperia Z3+ Vs LG G4 Vs Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Vs Apple iPhone 6 Plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22Y17VQNQI
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2015-05-28 14:59
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Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762
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alexander87
Sony Xperia Z1
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Posted: 2015-05-28 15:27
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On 2015-05-28 14:59:02, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762



Hey man, we're grown up people here, that realise the fact that benchmarks mean nothing for day to day usage.
I'd like a nice comparison with S6 and z3+ put under heavy load in gaming, app loading, 4G traffic, and see if throttling occurs.

try harder...
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josephnero
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Posted: 2015-05-28 16:10
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This is expected actually.Wait for GPU tests.graphics is the only strong point of 810


Even brighter screen than Z3.wow
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]hows-a-brighter-warmer-screen/
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badassmam
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Posted: 2015-05-28 17:36
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Where I work we have scientists and clinicians. Scientists will look at 'benchmarks' all day and night and clinicians will ask, 'how will that help my patient?'. If a patient has a tumour you could blast him with chemotherapy, radiation and photon beams altogether to cure him but that is overkill. A good Doctor may just give him chemo and send him home tumour free and happy. People get hung up over benchmarks all the time. Its not important. SD801, 805, 808, 810, Exynos all run Angry Birds the same so what does it matter? Apple has shown for the last 10 years that it doesn't matter, user experience is the key.

When you mention Galaxy S6, some people say that its the 'best phone' but the next comment is about battery life or no SD card slot. Talking about the G4, the first thing people say is great camera features or mention leather on the back. Nobody mentions SD808. With Sony its the 'same design' or 'just a minor upgrade'. What else? Nothing. Spend two minutes with the copper Z3+ and all this about the SD810 is forgotten, there is nothing prettier than that phone.
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2015-05-28 19:10
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On 2015-05-28 15:27:09, alexander87 wrote:

On 2015-05-28 14:59:02, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762



Hey man, we're grown up people here, that realise the fact that benchmarks mean nothing for day to day usage.
I'd like a nice comparison with S6 and z3+ put under heavy load in gaming, app loading, 4G traffic, and see if throttling occurs.

try harder...



All good man
As no matter how you try slice it the benchmarks are showing a CPU that is aggresively throttling performance. Do you not find it strange that the Z3+ despite using the Snapdragon 810 is getting worse results than the Htc M9 (with same CPU), a phone that is said to throttle even during little tasks. I remember seeing a similar reaction when the M9 results came out "benchmarks don't mean anything etc..." then the phone arrived and its performance reflected the very poor results it got in benchmarks.

The fact that the M9 with the same CPU and Nexus 6 with older CPU get better results is worrying, and its not just one benchmark, it is multiple.

What I do find interesting is you further ignore the fact that the phone reached a temp of 40°c, which is quite high.

Anyway, the Xperia Z3+ to me was just another example of the Snapdragon 810's failure, all I was waiting to see was if Sony threw in the updated version that people were talking about in the Rumours thread, seems not. Ah well. Roll-on IFA.
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