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AbuBasim
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Posted: 2008-09-28 12:37
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On 2008-09-28 12:28:27, max_wedge wrote:
@abubasim, great illustration mate
The top one has slightly less noise and the darks are darker.

The top is the treated photo. The slightly less sharpening is there because I couldn't emulate C902's level of sharpening using PSP8. For the above plate shot I used PSP X2 which allows sharpening when scaling using the Bicubic method. This with the additional sharpening step after scaling up seems at least to me to be almost spot on.

On 2008-09-28 12:36:59, plankgatan wrote:
Abu...are you telling me that i have edit this indoor picture ????

No, I meant that my treated copy reveals which I treated.

Post your best C902 photo at full size and I will then post the megapixel challenge again for you.

Edit: Here is an example of a C905 photo scaled down to 4 MP (2320x1740) and then back again to 8 MP. I took one of marcusradecker's excellent photos. Below are 100 percent crops of the original and the treated. Anyone can see what happened to the missing 4 megapixels?



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max_wedge
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Posted: 2008-09-28 13:17
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The case of the Houdini Pixels

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Posted: 2008-09-28 13:36
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Wondering where the additional 4MP gone... You're right, Abu. I've tried this on my K850... Rescaled to 3MP without detail loss...

Then I tried K800 (3.2MP). I can resized it to 2 MP...

Offtopic: could you post megapixel challenge using this Canon pic, the ice truck one that is fake :
http://i.data.bg/08/09/26/1170661_orig.jpg

Just kidding


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Posted: 2008-09-28 14:18
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On 2008-09-28 13:36:07, Hiron wrote:
Offtopic: could you post megapixel challenge using this Canon pic, the ice truck one that is fake :
http://i.data.bg/08/09/26/1170661_orig.jpg

Just kidding

I tried that It won't even scale from 8 to 7 MP without degrading in quality. That's because the original from the Canon EOS 5D Mk II is 21 MP. If you have very good bandwidth then you can check out the original here and then dream about the day when camera phones produce similar quality...
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Posted: 2008-09-28 14:34
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i remember my k800 as a great camera shooter, but i sure dont recal it have this clear & sharp quality as c902.



after seen this c905 pics by Marcus, i pretty sure have use the same color-spectra(settings) to c905 as c902.

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c905

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Posted: 2008-09-28 15:00
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Plank for your information this was my short and simple as possible answer on NightBlade's post. do you see "K is better than C" in this answer? well, it's not me who posted pics from both phones with some sort of hysteria tone in reply. you have to chill out a bit your emotions and start to accept fact that some people do not think exactly as you want, sad but true

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you're disarming megapixel theory, bad boy
Luci'sPower
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Posted: 2008-09-28 15:05
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raider,abu,plank just stop this is the c905 thread ....Everybody has their opinions.....but trully speaking are you guys insane saying that the k800 produces better daylighit pics than the c902??And C905 is way better even against the almighty N82.
And Raider stop attacking plank on everything he says it becomes annoying...even if hes right you still complain about something..
Ex: Plank"the sky is blue"
You say "no it's more a light,baby blue"
so comeone stop it u guys
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Posted: 2008-09-28 15:13
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well said luci's power

all these kind of threads are becoming a battle ground over the same subject over and over again .. sheesh
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Posted: 2008-09-28 15:25
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Luci'sPower I didn't say that K800 is better than C902 in daylight! is C better than K or is K better than C? not in everything but who cares? magic word: "definitely". besides argument with "blue sky" was silly, you hurt my feelings

EDIT: I would like to see special thread for this kind of discussion but I guess there will be nothing more than bashing

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Posted: 2008-09-28 16:13
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Raider sorry i didn't mean to hurt your feelings...i just think this type of discussions should stop.....
And i agree with you a special topic for this type of debates should exist
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Posted: 2008-09-28 17:20
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forfilled as requested:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=175771
nikolat
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On 2008-09-28 17:20:59, harry20larry wrote:
forfilled as requested:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=175771



Oh wow.

Didn't see that coming xD
AbuBasim
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Posted: 2008-09-28 18:52
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On 2008-09-28 15:05:37, Luci'sPower wrote:
but trully speaking are you guys insane saying that the k800 produces better daylighit pics than the c902??

That was not the point with my posts. I was simply showing what the megapixel myth is all about, that all camera phones above 3 MP doesn't deliver their stated resolution. Just look at the samples I posted on the previous pages.
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Posted: 2008-09-29 00:58
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hmmm.. will the call quality of the c905 be good?
max_wedge
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Posted: 2008-09-29 02:30
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On 2008-09-28 18:52:44, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2008-09-28 15:05:37, Luci'sPower wrote:
but trully speaking are you guys insane saying that the k800 produces better daylighit pics than the c902??

That was not the point with my posts. I was simply showing what the megapixel myth is all about, that all camera phones above 3 MP doesn't deliver their stated resolution. Just look at the samples I posted on the previous pages.

Makes me wonder if they are actually using interpolation? Surely they wouldn't be so dodgy? The printer and scanner industries have been brought into line with that sort of crap, maybe the phone companies are still pulling that shit?
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