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doministry
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Posted: 2009-05-31 12:37
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On 2009-05-31 09:56:57, EMS06 wrote:
I'm still holding out for a P1 successor with at least a 2.8 inches screen, which is possible given the dead space on the bottom between the screen and the word 'P1', and a decent list of specs. I've read what a number of people wrote about that design being dead but until SE officially says so I'll hope. I just can't see myself with a touchscreen only phone as opposed to a compact QWERTY touchscreen one. SE, if you're listening or reading this, please...



Pseries is dead.....
Xperia took it's place.
Actually X1 is a huge jump after P1.
Maybe they'll make a device on Symbian...
But I think WM became a "business" platform.
Interesting what Xnext will show...
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Dups!
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Posted: 2009-05-31 13:09
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@doministry

I'm not looking for a P- series but the design in P1. The X1 is bulky, not keen on the slide out keyboard and it is windows. I'm looking for a symbian or android P1 like phone.
It's not what you do or even how you do it but in what state of mind you do it: Dups! 2009
doministry
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Posted: 2009-05-31 15:59
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On 2009-05-31 13:09:14, EMS06 wrote:
@doministry

I'm not looking for a P- series but the design in P1. The X1 is bulky, not keen on the slide out keyboard and it is windows. I'm looking for a symbian or android P1 like phone.



Yeah, I got ya.
I think it's a little chance for such a design..... With a pitty.

I was shocked that P910/P990 design was completely abandoned. Still better than side-out devices.

But must say - Windows is a very positive surprise after using UIQ for 3,5 years......
a w a r e
rizzamarv
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Posted: 2009-05-31 16:42
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Totally agree. I heard so many negative things about wm that I was really considering to buy a symbian phone. Now I am more than happy with my X1. with a little customisation (using Spb 3.0 and a couple of other apps) I have to say I have never been so satisfied with an OS. The connectivity, flexibility and customisation possibilites are second to none.

I believe that anybody who is seriously in need of a smartphone (and does not just want flashy animations a la Iphone) will be more than happy with the X1 and wm. Furthermore (owning an Ipod touch) I can say that the multimedia functions on the X1 are just as good, if not better than on an Iphone. No need to change video formats etc, active sync is a "god given" tool!

Sorry for the OT but had to get that off my chest Just Loving my X1

Back to topic, hope keeps producing WM Phones and also wish they would produce something with the formfactor of P1, Just really missing the Keyboard. Eventhough I've got used th the one on the X1 prefer the P1s. So come on SE give me some good news next week
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Posted: 2009-05-31 17:39
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having used uiq for several of my previous phones i can say WM6.1 is a major improvement for me. I also own a X1 and a touch 2g.

I like WM because you can customize it more.

But i am so tempted by the 3rd gen iphone when ot comes in a few months

Will have to decide when i know more ! (X5? Iphone4g? IDOU?)

I want top end specs with no bugs.

and if the iphone has a good camera and all the things they promis like BT2.1 etc. It will be goodbye for now sonyericsson (i WAS your biggest fanboy ish)
doministry
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Posted: 2009-05-31 17:50
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On 2009-05-31 17:39:30, Creid wrote:
having used uiq for several of my previous phones i can say WM6.1 is a major improvement for me. I also own a X1 and a touch 2g.

I like WM because you can customize it more.

But i am so tempted by the 3rd gen iphone when ot comes in a few months

Will have to decide when i know more ! (X5? Iphone4g? IDOU?)

I want top end specs with no bugs.

and if the iphone has a good camera and all the things they promis like BT2.1 etc. It will be goodbye for now sonyericsson (i WAS your biggest fanboy ish)


Hah, who knows!
But I bet Apple will still rely on touchscreen without any hardware controls,
what makes it kind of an invalid
I need keys etc. and SE made it right on X1.
I also doubt about top end specs on Iphone soon,
but may be wrong.
To be honest my hopes are up for Windows 7 plus SE hardware,
like X5 or something....

I must say I will probably never back to Symbian.....
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mario2004
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Posted: 2009-05-31 21:26
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I bet you'll change your mind if you see Satio. Is running on the popular s60 platform (v5) . If you think the WM platform is easy to custom - then you haven't seen anything yet OK - you have to know a bit about the 'internals & stuff', nothing major for divas like us though If the video rec. is on par with my n95, then Satio might very well be my next symbian (and first SE)
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Posted: 2009-05-31 21:57
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There's a few video recording samples out for Satio. Never see it myself yet.
doministry
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Posted: 2009-05-31 22:24
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On 2009-05-31 21:26:14, mario2004 wrote:
I bet you'll change your mind if you see Satio. Is running on the popular s60 platform (v5) . If you think the WM platform is easy to custom - then you haven't seen anything yet OK - you have to know a bit about the 'internals & stuff', nothing major for divas like us though If the video rec. is on par with my n95, then Satio might very well be my next symbian (and first SE)



Satio may be great.
But I need qwerty + dpad/navi keys.
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Creid
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Posted: 2009-05-31 22:56
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why you need hw keys?
SE cz
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Posted: 2009-05-31 23:02
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On 2009-05-31 22:56:14, Creid wrote:
why you need hw keys?

Why you don't need them? Touching keys or display is the same I think, or isn't?
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Posted: 2009-05-31 23:05
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On 2009-05-31 16:42:24, rizzamarv wrote:
Totally agree. I heard so many negative things about wm that I was really considering to buy a symbian phone. Now I am more than happy with my X1. with a little customisation (using Spb 3.0 and a couple of other apps) I have to say I have never been so satisfied with an OS. The connectivity, flexibility and customisation possibilites are second to none.

I believe that anybody who is seriously in need of a smartphone (and does not just want flashy animations a la Iphone) will be more than happy with the X1 and wm. Furthermore (owning an Ipod touch) I can say that the multimedia functions on the X1 are just as good, if not better than on an Iphone. No need to change video formats etc, active sync is a "god given" tool!
[ This Message was edited by: rizzamarv on 2009-05-31 15:58 ]




I totally agree with how good WM is. I've had three phones in my life that wasn't an Ericsson/Sony Ericsson: The Nokia 8210 (in 1999) an HTC Touch Diamond and the Google ADP1. The Touch Diamond was insanely slow and hard to use so I was very sceptical towards the X1. Boy was I wrong! Now I can't imagine owning a phone without WM! I've tried the ExpressMusic 5800 and if the Satio is as slow as that one the phone will be a new Touch Diamond... But like the X1, I'd love for Sony Ericsson to prove me wrong.

You mention one thing however that's just plain wrong. Active Sync is NOT a god given tool! It's actually very very bad! Not as bad as syncing an iPhone with iTunes, but it's close. The Sony Ericsson SyncTool for use with A100/200 phones is much better. Syncing my K850i was much easier and quicker than on the X1. Hopefully MS has realised what a piece of crap program Active Sync is and improve it for WM6,5 and WM7. MyPhone is atleast a big step forward.
doministry
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Posted: 2009-06-01 00:57
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On 2009-05-31 22:56:14, Creid wrote:
why you need hw keys?


Why??
Writing any long text on a hw keyb. is a whole another story than
doin' this on screen!! I mean it's really intuitive. And much easier.
I would commit suicide if somebody would make me write my mails onscreen...
Plus, the keys for answer/end call for instance: boy it's so natural,
opposed to idiotic slide-to-unlock or whatever.

Well similar with navi pad - there are many situations where it's so easier to navigate one hand instead of onscreen scrolling or touching...

I couldn't use sceen-only device, hell no.
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rizzamarv
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Posted: 2009-06-01 03:09
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On 2009-06-01 00:57:44, doministry wrote:

On 2009-05-31 22:56:14, Creid wrote:
why you need hw keys?


Why??
Writing any long text on a hw keyb. is a whole another story than
doin' this on screen!! I mean it's really intuitive. And much easier.
I would commit suicide if somebody would make me write my mails onscreen...
Plus, the keys for answer/end call for instance: boy it's so natural,
opposed to idiotic slide-to-unlock or whatever.

Well similar with navi pad - there are many situations where it's so easier to navigate one hand instead of onscreen scrolling or touching...

I couldn't use sceen-only device, hell no.



Exactly, anybody who really regularly has to right long emails on a phone needs HW Buttons. When I use my touch (and I have had it for one year) to right an email, i often want to throw it against the wall... its no where near as fast and thats not because I lack practice.

@ thklinge.
I mis-formulated. Did not mean Activesync alone. Meant all communication between my X1 and my notebook. the ability to sync my addressbooks, emails etc with outlook, to install programs for my mobile on the notebook and automatically install them when my X1 is connected the next time is wonderful.... Guess it really depends on how and for what you use your mobille.

Also putting big hopes on Wm7 with SE hw, but until then the X1 will serve my purposes!
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Posted: 2009-06-01 08:32
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3rd it is. Any cracks??

At MR they say its nothing high end, but the design is going to be compelling and that a whole new range will be launched.
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