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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011 |
Ricky D
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That article says that it shouldn't be mistaken for AT&T's Play 4G, but surely it wouldn't much different? Just a different radio chipset for Verizon's network. Am I wrong?
@FMW300i You're right! I'm a little red faced now as I never noticed on my Arc that it didn't say Sony Ericsson on the back. This leaked handset does look weird though without any text down the middle.
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admad
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On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE... 
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i... |
nikos_se
Joined: Nov 04, 2007
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Trust me i want it to happen more than you do.I think going with ST-ericsson would make  more competitive with other brands,than going with qualcomm.The thing is,that every leaked information we have about Nozomi indicates that it will be using dual-core scorpion.So,i kind of doubt that will release a similar device with a different processor.If you are talking about Nypon here,then ok.!!!But Nozomi will with a 90% certainty be using a dual-core scorpion cpu.I dont mean to doubt you,i just keep it realistic. |
motvikt
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On 2011-12-13 09:09:12, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:58:21, nikos_se wrote:
Maybe your friend was lying to you???Because every leaked cpu test(+SOURCES) suggests that LT26i will be coming with dual-core scorpion at 1.5ghz.++Even if they were using st-ericsson based cpus,anything below u9540 would be less capable than exynos 4210 found on galaxy s2
Why would my best friend (I'm 37, he's 36) lie to me? I don't know about you and your friends but we don't lie to each other. There's so many versions of each phone floating around and many of them are test/pre-production units only. I was only referring to what he said.
The ST-E U8500 running 2x1GHz outperformed Qualcomm's 2x1,2GHz in 80% of the tests so it's not a bad platform. Also, ST-E platform will probably be used in midrange phones not high-end, and it's MUCH cheaper than qualcomms.
And btw, u can run U8500 in 1,5 if you want to.
St-ericsson is awesome and is the only platform right now that can compete with samsung
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adsada
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On 2011-12-13 10:46:21, admad wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
On 2011-12-13 00:21:51, disiz wrote:
Non-removable battery, no xenon flash, microSim, seem pretty height... Again and again disappointed about SE... We'll be in 2012, come on SE...
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs).
Are You serious? Try going to a pub for example, and take a good pic there, it's impossible whether it's SUPER HIPER ULTRA Exmor sensor, it may have 30 MPx, it still will need some exposure time to take the pic, in which time the hand will shake this thing like crazy. At best backlit sensor in low light areas can do 1/30s IMO. Xenon flash gives us like 1/250s and even more. With xenon I can take as many pics I wish and I'm sure they will come out fine. With low power LED I have to steady myself, and hope that photo will come out only a little blurry. Xenon is a must. It's funny how I may have the best phone with best camera, but still take worse pics than good old k800i...
Just going to post my thought again
Being the previous owner of the K850i, I always said that once you've gone xenon you can never go back. Unfortunately I never had a choice in this matter as no android phone on the market came with this awesome feature. However after buying the xperia arc, I do manage just fine without it and although there are times when I would like to use it, its not so missed. What annoyed me most with the cyber-shot phone was the flash burn which ridiculously burnt out peoples faces. Also although most shots came out good, using the flash really didn't give a good idea of what was actually was seen by your eye when taking the photo and the moment you wanted to capture. With the arc, I find that the addition of Exmor-r really does help to bring more light to photos in the dark and photos I take actually look really good and capture the atmosphere of the moment very well. I have taken many photos in clubs and although you need a more steady hand (which admittedly can be hard while intoxicated) photos come out well. Photos of peoples faces with the LED flash light up the right amount without causing burn or making the light look unnatural. Also you can also see what's going on in the background (other people the lights etc.) whereas xenon would make the background completely black. Filming also works very well while the LED flash is on, not becoming blurry at all and again shows the atmosphere of the club well. What some might say sounds like a gimmick I believe works really well to help you capture a good night time photo without having to use a tripod, and captures a more realistic picture of what the moment actually was like.
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adsada
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Some press pictures of the new Xperia Play colour... I think I am actually in love with this orange colour, and am tempted to go out and buy a Play on this alone. 
 
  
via XperiaBlog
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aamwng
Joined: Mar 05, 2011
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All the rumours are doing my head in!!! 
Just want to know if nozomi is the flagship!?!
Anyway, shouldn't we be starting a new thread? All the phones rumoured are in the 2012 portfolio
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disiz
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On 2011-12-13 00:57:17, lolstebbo wrote:
Here's the question I have: What the hell is the fuss about xenon flashes? Everything in the foreground gets washed out or completely flattened while everything in the background becomes too dark due to absolute underexposure, it kills battery life like crazy, and they're generally placed too close to the lens thus making red-eye removal software necessary (as if SE's default software processing algorithms weren't extreme enough).
If people weren't so caught up about megapixels and focused on other sensor attributes (such as noise and dynamic range), then it becomes much more probable that we could get a low-resolution, high-sensitivity sensor effective enough to negate the need for a flash at all (and that manufacturers could actually market such a sensor as a superior alternative to a stupid 8/12/16MP sensor that no one needs). Xenon flash is really great for night photos. Today every phones make good day picts, but inside or by night, the picts are really noisy, then for now we need xenon flash because as you said manufacturers prefers growth MPixels capacity than sensor or lens itself... A friend has a Xperia Arc, and my satio results are much better. For red-eyes you're right that's a problem, but I prefer red eyes with a good focus, than normal eyes and noisy pict And for dark background, I always apply some settings, because as all automatic mode on digital camera isn't great
That's why we're wainting hard for a Sony mobile with xenon flash, because the Motorola XT720 isn't very good
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huiyi
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lt22?。。logo。。sony....
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Legen
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On 2011-12-13 14:37:55, huiyi wrote:
lt22?。。logo。。sony....
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Ricky D
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Be right back, I have to go change my underwear, I think I just jizzed.
Back: I think then that THIS is the Arc successor rather than that monstrosity were all been looking at for a few months, which, as I stated before, I believe to be Neo's update.
Someone please tell me that this isn't some fake PSed bull crap concept.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2011-12-13 14:17 ] I have a dig bick
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randomuser
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Ricky I hope you were being sarcastic 
There is no way anybody could jizz over this Xperia COW 
What in god's name is that stupid ugly bugle at the bottom!!! |
Ravager
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Hey! That's the Xperia Camel from about a week ago. So it's real then?
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NightBlade
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If it's got a xenon flash in it, I'm all in for the bulge.
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pt020
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On 2011-12-13 02:45:46, Ricky D wrote:
Has anybody spotted the 3.5mm glory hole on this thing?
Difficult to see but to me it looks like it is here ...
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