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MtLeakerDev
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On 2013-03-16 12:41:11, vivftp wrote:
I asked zomg about the rumored specs we have for the 2H flagship and here is what he said. You can follow this link and scroll to post 10749 and onwards
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491097&page=108
" The bolded stuff is not in the phone. Not that I know of anyway. The phone uses a5" 1080p A-MVA IGZO Sharp screen with a 2000:1 contrast ratio, and 178 degree viewing angle. No Whitemagic or Triluminous. The latter is incompatible with mobile devices because of Cadmium content.
It's much closer to the ZL than Z.
2700mAh.
No such think as software X-Reality, and I don't think Sony are putting dedicated processing hardware in the phone.
The Mobile BIONZ processing package is still in development, it won't be ready until 2014 according to my sources.
I6MP 1/2.3".
No dedicated audio amp, too battery intensive.
A lot of this phone sounds like wishful thinking to me. The real changes for SMC won't come until the second half of next year. Remember phones have an 18 month lead time, so if you take SMC moving to Tokyo as Day 1, then the first Tokyo phones with full Sony involvement aren't going to be out until next year."
He did also mention this
" Not heard about that tbh, afaik there is no such phone called "One Sony", there is a 2H flagship but it's not going to be out until August. We will get C670x before that which is the 4.8" FHD, SD600 phone. Not sure which regions it is going to come out in though, probably the same regions the phablet comes out in."
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2013-03-16 11:42 ]
Seems believable as the real comeback of Sony should be 2014
But h2 Still a wonderful device
But I would buy a Z or ZL till 2014
So I can have a made in Japan Xperia (maybe xD?) |
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AbhiD999
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On 2013-03-16 12:41:11, vivftp wrote:
I asked zomg about the rumored specs we have for the 2H flagship and here is what he said. You can follow this link and scroll to post 10749 and onwards
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491097&page=108
" The bolded stuff is not in the phone. Not that I know of anyway. The phone uses a5" 1080p A-MVA IGZO Sharp screen with a 2000:1 contrast ratio, and 178 degree viewing angle. No Whitemagic or Triluminous. The latter is incompatible with mobile devices because of Cadmium content.
It's much closer to the ZL than Z.
2700mAh.
No such think as software X-Reality, and I don't think Sony are putting dedicated processing hardware in the phone.
The Mobile BIONZ processing package is still in development, it won't be ready until 2014 according to my sources.
I6MP 1/2.3".
No dedicated audio amp, too battery intensive.
A lot of this phone sounds like wishful thinking to me. The real changes for SMC won't come until the second half of next year. Remember phones have an 18 month lead time, so if you take SMC moving to Tokyo as Day 1, then the first Tokyo phones with full Sony involvement aren't going to be out until next year."
He did also mention this
" Not heard about that tbh, afaik there is no such phone called "One Sony", there is a 2H flagship but it's not going to be out until August. We will get C670x before that which is the 4.8" FHD, SD600 phone. Not sure which regions it is going to come out in though, probably the same regions the phablet comes out in."
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2013-03-16 11:42 ]
that's what zomg believes. The two most trusted insiders on our thread ramu and dacha believe otherwise...
Both have heard acc. to their sources that 2h flagship will indeed carry all that super stuff.
Morover ramu and dacha are right 99% of time while zomg has only partial success rate. |
randomuser
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Well abhi you can't say that. Neither I, Huiyi nor Dacha have 90% accuracy. And it's not right to say that zomg has partial success rate.
He has different sources, Dacha, me and Huiyi we all have different sources too. So any of us could be right but may also be wrong. But if all of us agree on a certain rumor it's definitely more credible than what Zomg or someone else may say. 
But anyway, with the Rumor rating system we do make it clear how much you should trust a rumor.
Though the ones rated XR5 are almost definitely true, no matter what anyone else may say.
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Jubei1
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On 2013-03-16 12:58:28, itsjustJOH wrote:
We got our hopes too high. 
More like a lot of people were putting out false information based on dreams than any serious inside info
Kaz Hirai would be bat shit insane of he tried to sell a thick camera phone as the 2H flagship. It never made sense, zomgs original info atleast was logical, sell a limited edition camera phone for the people who love photography
But the 2H flagship needs to be thin and light because thats what sells in mainstream. Most people do not care about the amazing photography, they just want pictures to be good enough for their facebook albums. Thats why Galaxy, iPhones sell 10x what Pureview 808 sells or even what Lumia 920 sells
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randomuser
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On 2013-03-16 13:38:46, Jubei1 wrote:
On 2013-03-16 12:58:28, itsjustJOH wrote:
We got our hopes too high.
More like a lot of people were putting out false information based on dreams than any serious inside info
Kaz Hirai would be bat shit insane of he tried to sell a thick camera phone as the 2H flagship. It never made sense, zomgs original info atleast was logical, sell a limited edition camera phone for the people who love photography
But the 2H flagship needs to be thin and light because thats what sells in mainstream. Most people do not care about the amazing photography, they just want pictures to be good enough for their facebook albums. Thats why Galaxy, iPhones sell 10x what Pureview 808 sells or even what Lumia 920 sells
Sorry but that's just not happening. There is no "separate" Camera phone and 2H flagship.
And this is XR5 category info.
There is only 1 flagship for 2H 2013 - One Sony = Honami = C680X
3 devices with S800
5" - Honami
4" - Ray 3
6.x" - Phablet
Apart from these three there is C670X with S600.
No other phone
Also I don't understand why some are thinking thick = bad ? A phone being 12mm doesn't it the size of a Note 2. Thin phones are a fad. Nobody's gonna go " OMG!!!!!!! So fat!!" seeing a 12mm thick phone as long as it's not too long and wide.
Satio was 13mm thin
Lumia 920 is 10.7 mm thin
ZL 10mm, Acro S is 12mm, N8 is 13mm thin,
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jianlin
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@ramu c670x release in april? |
vivftp
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Awwe, according to zomg it seems that Vita OS is on the back burner... or I suppose at least there's no info that's leaked outside of Sony on it. One day... one day... |
-XYZ
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Sony's comeback is happening now. The Xperia Z, though an imperfect device, is selling rather well. Though I doubt Sony will be able to match Samsung or Apple for number of Units sold, they should at least be competing with or exceeding the likes of HTC and LG. Certainly the legwork involved in getting the Sony brand back onto the map is happening now, in 2013.
Maybe the proper "Sony" devices made completely internally in Japan will start appearing next year, but the foundation is being laid now.
EDIT:
And Vita OS....oh god, not this again. Hasn't it been emade clear enough already that developing Vita OS to the point at which it matches iOS, Android, WP8, even BB10, in terms of functionality would cost a lot of money. Why bother, when you can invest in the already growing and substantial Android ecosystem, which improves annually at no extra cost to Sony themselves. Maybe they could use their Android licence more creatively and branch off a little more with the software or even merge Vita OS with Android (which would be VERY good idea).....
And, the rumors posted by Random and ZOMG sound a whole lot more reasonable than the bullshit, wishful thinking that was flying around not too long ago in this thread. You people need to stop confusing reality with dreams; this isn't Inception.
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randomuser
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On 2013-03-16 13:49:31, jianlin wrote:
@ramu c670x release in april?
June-July |
jianlin
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agree x10 13mm is nice to hold bcuz of curve back...
sometimes too thin is not nice to hold though...  |
vikeviki
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THREAD GETTING CONFUSED DAY BY DAY,CANNOT FOLLOW UP THESE THINGS CONTINUE 
@Vivftp,ask Zombq to join in Esato and lets be have healthy info rather than confusing
@RaMu i amy settle with Z if this continues |
randomuser
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Also an update
Looks like One Sony won't be 1000$ expensive. More like 850-900$ |
design14
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@ramu do you know what the phablet's name? "Togari"?
And how about c670x? |
Jubei1
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On 2013-03-16 13:44:40, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-03-16 13:38:46, Jubei1 wrote:
On 2013-03-16 12:58:28, itsjustJOH wrote:
We got our hopes too high.
More like a lot of people were putting out false information based on dreams than any serious inside info
Kaz Hirai would be bat shit insane of he tried to sell a thick camera phone as the 2H flagship. It never made sense, zomgs original info atleast was logical, sell a limited edition camera phone for the people who love photography
But the 2H flagship needs to be thin and light because thats what sells in mainstream. Most people do not care about the amazing photography, they just want pictures to be good enough for their facebook albums. Thats why Galaxy, iPhones sell 10x what Pureview 808 sells or even what Lumia 920 sells
Sorry but that's just not happening. There is no "separate" Camera phone and 2H flagship.
And this is XR5 category info.
There is only 1 flagship for 2H 2013 - One Sony = Honami = C680X
3 devices with S800
5" - Honami
4" - Ray 3
6.x" - Phablet
Apart from these three there is C670X with S600.
No other phone
Also I don't understand why some are thinking thick = bad ? A phone being 12mm doesn't it the size of a Note 2. Thin phones are a fad. Nobody's gonna go " OMG!!!!!!! So fat!!" seeing a 12mm thick phone as long as it's not too long and wide.
Satio was 13mm thin
Lumia 920 is 10.7 mm thin
ZL 10mm, Acro S is 12mm, N8 is 13mm thin,
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-03-16 12:49 ]
There may not be a seperate camera phone coming but i honestly do not believe there will be a thick 2H flagship using a big Pureview 808 type sensor either. While i do believe you have had accurate info in the past, not everything you have written was true. Z did not have a whitemagic display and it didnt have 2800 Mah battery, Exynos Octa WILL be used in Galaxy S4
And im not sure what was popular 5 years ago has anything to do with what is popular today. Lumia 920 has awful sales (Nokia wont even admit the number but hides it among the other cheaper Lumia phones) while Z wich is under 8 mm is Sonys best selling phone so far in the Android world.
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-XYZ
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On 2013-03-16 13:58:34, randomuser wrote:
Also an update
Looks like One Sony won't be 1000$ expensive. More like 850-900$
That still goddamn expensive.
I mean that translates to £550-600 based off current exchange rates. That is MORE expensive than the competition barring the high capacity 64GB iPhons.cIn addition, imports into the UK almost always inflate the price of technology. What would be $850-900 in the US would therefore inflate to about £700-800....maybe even more.
That is INSANELY expensive.
I had better get a free PS4 for that kind of money.... |
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