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pwwn3d
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Just poking about my phone, found one of the files from Zi Corp., who provides the predictive texting for the P1. In Z:/system/Zi/ theres a file named Zi8DatENUK.z8d.r01 which if you open with a hex editor or the likes, right at the end there are some odd strings
Which brings the obvious question, whats a "yid"? More interestingly why are those strings there grouped together in the first place? |
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sunking101
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A yid is derogatory slang for a Jew. As for why it's there, I'm taking your word for it here as I haven't checked but could someone have possibly been on his last day at work at wherever programmed it? |
pwwn3d
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Good thinking, probably something like that. Just interesting to point out really. |
sunking101
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None of those words come up when typed with predictive text though. |
Nanu
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I have just checked this file on my P990i and it is exactly the same!
Two questions spring to mind!!
Why?
and....
How did you come across these! 
I've had my P990 10 months and never once thought to check the Zi8DatENUK.z8d.r01 file for profanities!
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michael the mage
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...well....somebody is always first.... 
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pwwn3d
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Someone with too much free time is always first 
Well, its more because my phone is acting really odd, it acts like a prototype in the sense that there is no "Continue anyway" in SEUS, but dvt identifies it as a RED phone.
More annoyingly when the phone starts a service starts which sends out status sms's to a number in Sweden (46708441329) which racked a nice 40 pound phone bill up for me this month  . Formatting the internal memory and master reset have no effect.
Thats what started all this nosing about, and I just came across that and had a peek in it |
Dogmann
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@pwwn3d
Ouch that really sucks £40 is one hell of lot of texts, where did your unit come from? Usually it only sends that type of message the first time you put a Sim in are your removing and changing Sims at all?
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pwwn3d
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@Dogmann
I know, quite a waste. I purchased the unit it Hong Kong. (relatively regular visitor, but won't be able to get it back there for atleast a month!) No, haven't been swapping sims about, its been used for that billing period with only the same sim inserted, never removed during that time.
What worries me is that there is no "Continue anyway" in SEUS, and I read elsewhere that the statusSMS[sent] usually appears on prototype units! (Which is confusing as dvt identifies it as red) |
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perhaps... its a stolen set?
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-08-20 01:10:02, sunking101 wrote:
None of those words come up when typed with predictive text though.
Exactly. That's the purpose of the list. To make sure the phone doesn't offer taboo words as suggestions. Imagine the number of lawsuits, especially in the US if the phone suggested "yid" . . . That'd be almost enough for USA/Israel to declare war on Sweden and Japan . . .
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On 2007-08-20 07:54:24, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-08-20 01:10:02, sunking101 wrote:
None of those words come up when typed with predictive text though.
Exactly. That's the purpose of the list. To make sure the phone doesn't offer taboo words as suggestions. Imagine the number of lawsuits, especially in the US if the phone suggested "yid" . . . That'd be almost enough for USA/Israel to declare war on Sweden and Japan . . .
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-08-20 07:12 ]
In all my 34yrs being alive - and considering I'm black, I've NEVER come across a slang/derogatory word such as "yid". it must be a very OLD profanity because I grew up in a predominantly jewish/russian neighborhood growing up in North York, Toronto and never heard of it. I'm glad I never did ... but saddened that I know its existence and what it means today. On my daily quest to learn something new ... this is NOT what I had in mind. Good find, but saddened that its found.
I'm curious as to why such other words - derogatory - don't show up in this list.
I should have to list them nor should anyone else ... but I'm very curious. IS there a direct correlation as to WHERE this particular P1i is sold or directed to as apposed to another?
Would we see other derogatory terms in other models being shipped elsewhere catered to that market as to NOT offend those natives?? Hmm.
I really don't think a lawsuit could be effective let alone successful
1) you'd have to prove in a sentence that the undesirable word wasn't sought after, and if it did show up would be out of context.
2) you'd have to prove that with specific keystrokes in any sentence, phrase or compound word - that is in the dictionary (Oxford or other wise) - is NOT eligible.
3) you'd have to have a double/triple blind test to prove that off the shelf BNIB Shipping models show the SAME results for a particular market against another BNIB model (of same model) shipping for another market shows the same results... if it didn't you'd have to come with a logical & scientifically proven way for why it didn't and why its different results are due to market segment.
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On 2007-08-20 09:30:07, Prom1 wrote:
IS there a direct correlation as to WHERE this particular P1i is sold or directed to as apposed to another?
This isn't P1i specific it is on my P990 and W950 also and they are both World Generic 1! It will also show on the M600!
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batesie
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"ho"? as in father christmas?
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AbuBasim
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On 2007-08-20 09:30:07, Prom1 wrote:
In all my 34yrs being alive - and considering I'm black, I've NEVER come across a slang/derogatory word such as "yid".
I have never heard this word myself, but it is listed in the Urban Dictionary. One of the meanings:
"An Eastern European Jew. The term is often interpreted as offensive, which is a major misconception. The word Yiddish is not offensive, so neither is Yid. The word Yid is used to differentiate between an Eastern European, Yiddish-speaking Jew and an Israeli, Hebrew-speaking Jew."
On 2007-08-20 09:30:07, Prom1 wrote:
I'm curious as to why such other words - derogatory - don't show up in this list.
I think the hexdump shown in the first post does not show the complete list.
I suspect most phones with autocompletion/prediction of text has similar lists.
On 2007-08-20 09:37:49, batesie wrote:
"ho"? as in father christmas?
"A word Santa Clause says three times when he sees your wife, mother and sister together in the same room." (Urban Dictionary)
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