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rdnymllnsktr
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Posted: 2004-02-15 21:19
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I recently bought an AT&T T616. I got one of those unlocking kits from E-Bay, and successfully unlocked my phone. However, I am wondering if it is truly unlocked. I stuck a (expired) Cingular SIM card into the phone, but it said "No Access", then I stuck a (unactivated) SIM card into the phone, and it said "Inactive SIM". Why did it say two different things? Has anyone actually successfully unlocked their carrier locked cell and then successfully used another SIM card into it? When I check the SIM lock, all of the locks are unlocked. Any explanations for why the different messages?
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Posted: 2004-02-15 21:20
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do the <**< code and tell us if the padlocks are open or not
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Posted: 2004-02-15 21:22
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an expired SIM card is blocked, meaning the network will not allow it access ("No access") to the network... a card which is not activated is not blocked, but it needs to be activated in order to gain access to the network.... don't really see the problem... use an activiated non-expired card and it will work fine

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Posted: 2004-02-15 21:36
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Cytech, I hope that you're right. That sounds logical, just that I haven't had a chance to test it with a "Non-AT&T" SIM card yet. The thing is, I've been bragging (sort of) so much to my friend that mine is unlocked, and basically singing the praises of unlocking your phone (He doesn't, cause he doesn't want his dad to mess with his phone).

Well, his brother wants to buy my old phone, and it's unlocked, and I'm just worried that I will suffer lots of embarrassment if the T-Mobile SIM card doesn't work in the unlocked phone (not only embarrassment, but also $80 on that unlocking kit).

MixiN, all of the locks are open.

Thanks!!!
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Posted: 2004-02-15 22:24
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it's simple then.If all locks are opened then , guess what, ur phone is...unlocked.Try an active SIM for a change
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Posted: 2004-02-15 22:31
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It should be unlocked. Why don't you try the sim card of the buyer?

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Posted: 2004-02-15 22:36
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I will today. Basically, I was just asking, cause I'm kind of worried about being embarrassed. Come on guys, you all have to admit that you'd rather find out you're wrong beforehand, rather than during the situation, right? Thanks to everyone, though, you've made me more confident that this will work.
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Posted: 2004-02-16 15:34
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Just wanted to reply that the SIM card successfully worked. Gosh, I can't believe that I was so scared. Oh well, it works, which is good! When I turned the phone on, I saw the words "Welcome to Voicestream". Yeah!!! Thanks everyone.
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Posted: 2004-02-16 16:04
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I'm glad it worked. Do not worry to ask question. This forum is here to help each other, right guys and gals?
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Posted: 2004-02-16 16:23
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Yeah thats right

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Posted: 2004-02-16 16:34
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Quote:

On 2004-02-15 21:19:15, rdnymllnsktr wrote:
I stuck a (expired) Cingular SIM card into the phone, but it said "No Access", then I stuck a (unactivated) SIM card into the phone, and it said "Inactive SIM". Why did it say two different things?




I can't help but wondering... WHY does it surprise you that an unactivated SIM comes up as 'inactive' (doh!)


and WHY does it surprise you that an expired SIM won't allow you access anymore??


And finally..... why didn't you just do your little field test with a (any!!) active SIM in the first place? Surely you have a friend/brother/neighbour willing to lend you their SIM for a minute or 2??
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Posted: 2004-02-16 16:40
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The answer is in the question!the expired sim is expired and so is removed from the list of active\\provisioned numbers and so has no access!the inactive sim is inactive and will therefore give no info to the phone and the phone rightly says its invalid as it can't get any valid info from it!ya phone is unlocked-you've just used duff sim's:try using an active one and you'll see!true

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Posted: 2004-02-16 16:47
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Geez, the whole question has been answered, so you guys should just shove off!

By the way, no, I don't happen to have anyone in the neighborhood with a different SIM card. Besides, I didn't know that there was a difference between an expired SIM card and an unactivated SIM card. It's people like you who turn other people, just looking for a simple answer, away from forums.
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