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K700i - use AAC to fit an hour of music |
max_wedge
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The K700i music player is limited by the handsets small memory in terms of mp3 storage. However it is not all doom and gloom 
You can reduce the bitrate of mp3 from 128 to 96 if you are prepared to compromise. This gives you about 16 mp3 tracks.
However a much better option is to use the AAC codec. With this codec, (itunes has a free AAC encoder), you can use a 96Kbps for the same quality as MP3 at 128Kbps, and the same 16 tracks.
If you aren't super fussy, it still sounds good at 64Kbps using AAC, which gives you 22 tracks for your 40MB. This is what I'm using for music at the moment (it just better than carrying around another gadget), and it gets me through the day. Forgo Movies but I've still enough room for games and photos, and 20 of my current favourite music tracks. The sound quality is as good (if not better) at 64Kbps as Sony's ATRAC MDLP2 codec, which is very listenable.
Okay so I know it's a unique solution for a small number of situations, however if it'll work for you, here's what you do:
1. Install itunes (or aac encoder of your choice)
2. Convert an MP3 or CD track to AAC (in itunes just right click the track and click convert to aac)
3. The converted file will have an extension of m4a. Rename the extension to 3gp, for example songname.m4a becomes songname.3gp. The K700 will not recognise the file as an audio file if it doesn't have the 3gp extension, and will just copy it into the 'other' folder
4. Send the file to your phone via BT, USB, Serial, Ir or GPRS, those are your only choices 
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ares
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I use mp4 (aac) since i got my k700, 6 months ago 
Normally i hang around with 10-12 songs and still have lots of space for other things - itīs perfectly enough to listen in the gym for instance
Ah, r2ae letīs you use .m4a files withou changing file extension.
I personaly donīt like itunes aac converter, i prefer dbpoweramp+CLI encoder
Iīve been told the best one is Neroīs
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mamba
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where do i get this software from?
of course FREE!!! |
k4m!k4ze
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max_wedge
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@Arez, thanks for the heads up on encoders, I'd guessed itunes wasn't the greatest choice! If I can get even smaller file sizes (for same quality) I'll be stoked.
r2ae? My K700i doesn't seem to like m4a extensions. If I force it into the sounds folder with that extension it only lets me send it, not play.
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ares
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I have r2aa, so i have to change to .mp4, but i people say r2ae can read .m4a directly...whatīs your firmware?
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max_wedge
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oh that r2ae...
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max_wedge
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mines not that...
ah..>>left left no right <<>leftdamn
It's R2A041..friggin ancient |
Grimslade
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I've got The White Stripes' "Elephant" on my phone in .m4a format, 96kbps. Works and sounds great. Good for the gym! |
Glenny
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i cant seem to download it, is there a way i can still get the mp3 smaller. ive heard of diet mp3 or summin like that |
max_wedge
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buddy mp3 is on the way out! Well not fully, but AAC does a better file size for same quality as most MP3 codecs, but I haven't tested them all by any means.
To encode in AAC there have been mentioned here already Nero 6, dbpoweramp and itunes.
You won't get much more compression out of mp3 before it starts to sound shite. 96Kbps is the lowest you'd want to go, which seems to be comparable in sound quality with a 64Kbps AAC track, which is smaller in file size.
So leave your MP3 for the W800i! |
DeLa
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I have R2L and can send name.m4a (the standard name given by itunes) to the phone and it plays them.
I find 96 really on the point of acceptable/bad; it depends on the kind of music. I use 128. Tracks are 2,5-3 MB. It leaves me with half an hour (and some free MB) of music to have some self-chosen noise when there's no reception on the radio.
For me there remains a difference between flash-players with anything below 20gb and ipods or players from another brand with 20gb or more: with the first you'll spend time administrating your space, with the other you pump your complete collection onto it and you choose whatever you feel like at the time. For both you have to invest time but to put it all on but for the +20gb players you have more return.
That's why I'd prefer some kind of bluetooth solution so you can play the music on your ipod or whatever through the phone so you can answer it when a call comes in. Or the other way round. |
max_wedge
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you can get a 2x aaa cell battery powered radio transmitter that plugs into the out jack of a player and transmits the signal on the fm band to a radio. You could use the radio in the K700i to tune into your mp3 player I do it occasionally.
But it is an extra gadget to carry around, so I agree a music player with BT isthe way to go.. There is a SE bluetooth music player, it takes up to 128MB MS duo cards, and mutes the music when a call come in. However the mike is in the body of the player and can't really be worn on a lapel (to heavy). And 128MB is too small.
Good news is that for a sony relate product, it actually supports mp3 as well as Sony ATRAC.
But nothing as yet I have seen that is a BT 20GB plus player..... |
sapibobo
Joined: Dec 25, 2002
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I went to dbpoweramp site but didnt find the encoder to make mp4 from audio files or to make mp4 from mp3 files. There is a codec that available to change to mp4 but from other type of file. Anyone can show me the link to download proper code 4 dbpoweramp? Thx
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k4m!k4ze
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@sapi - follow this link - http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central-mp4.htm
Scroll down to the mp4 encoders section, and download the
1) FAAC encoder
2) and psytel + AACEnc encoders
and Install them
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Posted: 2005-03-14 17:12
