Posted by anonymuser
It's out, with official screenshots - http://www.engadget.com/2009/[....]-announces-windows-mobile-6-5/
Actually looks okay, but according to Engadget, MS say it won't be released for any devices on the market currently - so that could be bad news for X1 owners.
Of course the hacks at XDA-devs may have different ideas, but if MS don't want to propagate it, that maybe because it won't run (very well) on current devices.
Posted by WhyBe
It's already running on the X1 and available for download...check XDA.
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Posted by anonymuser
The Touch-IT beta? So, are you running it? How smooth is it?
Posted by WhyBe
I dare not run that stuff on my phone...I actually need to use my phone on a regular basis
But, reading the latter pages of the thread, you'll see the OS runs pretty smoothly with a few minor bugs (to be expected).
Posted by doministry
Also, looks like WM 6.5 will be less customizable for different manufacturers.
Posted by mediar
I hope SE to make Xperia phone with WM 6.5. Does it support more than 65k screens?
Posted by SloopJohnB
Yeah, microsoft also demanded that every manufacturer must place a hardware īstartī key on every WinMo 6.5 phone. I guess MS is trying to have more control over the WinMo experience. I think itīs a good thing.
I know itīs off topic but itīs amazing to see the effect the iphone had on the mobile market. Every manufacturer releasing large touch screen devices with finger friendly navigation and app shops. I didnīt think the blow was so hard. It seems like everyone is trying to improve its interface to better appleīs. The market has really evolved.
idou, nokia n97, palm pre, omnia hd, they all seem amazing. I keep wondering if apple can continue to stay ahead in the interface/OS game. Most manufaturers have better hardware already and the Pre has proved itīs possible to have effective multitasking with an iphoneīs like interface. Letīs wait till june, maybe apple has something up their sleeves, they oughtta, the market just got a whole lot more competitive now.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-02-16 19:34:34, mediar wrote:
I hope SE to make Xperia phone with WM 6.5. Does it support more than 65k screens?
WM has always supported more than 65K colors.
Posted by wafzal
Will have to see how stable it is.
Microsoft operating systems tend to be a bit unstable
when released don't usually work properly until at least
service pack 1.
Posted by anonymuser
Bear in mind this is mostly a cosmetic upgrade (the underlying OS will be pretty much unchanged from 6.1).
Wait till WM7 for some serious bugs.
Posted by razec
Not so impressive
the UI effects are still inferior to UIQ3 for sure. For a stupid reason they do not implement aero effects in it, we already have 1Ghz processors (Snapdragon), Nividia armed GPU (tegra) that might change things abit 
Posted by WhyBe
@razec
Being finger-friendly and a little prettier all around is enough for me. I can wait for WM7 for the big changes because it will probably mean buying everything new (phone and software).
I don't see how they are going to put Aero on a mobile when a lot of desktops and laptops can't even run it. Liberal use of transparency will do it for me.
Posted by doministry
On 2009-02-17 10:47:58, razec wrote:
Not so impressive
the UI effects are still inferior to UIQ3 for sure. For a stupid reason they do not implement aero effects in it, we already have 1Ghz processors (Snapdragon), Nividia armed GPU (tegra) that might change things abit
Although I loved UIQ and used it for years,
sorry but in fact UIQ compared even to current W 6.1 is definitely inferior.
On a simple thing for instance - smooth scrolling.
Most of apps look much more developed and mature.
The thing which one could really miss is full skins/themes support like all Symbian (me, personally - not, in the end the most usable things are simple, like apps icons on white background etc.) and customizable elements of UI like menus, scroll bars etc.
Having both P1 and X1 in my hands makes P1 look like a "toy". But of course it's and few years old UI...
We can only imagine how good current UIQ would look like.
The concepts were beautiful.
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Posted by carkitter
The Symbian Foundation S60 touch OS in the Idou is way ahead of WM IMO. I would never consider a WM device but would certainly like to have the Idou.
Plus, Nokia and ST Ericsson have developed some very powerful hardware to run their state-of-the-art software.
Posted by razec
On 2009-02-18 10:59:17, carkitter wrote:
The Symbian Foundation S60 touch OS in the Idou is way ahead of WM IMO. I would never consider a WM device but would certainly like to have the Idou.
Plus, Nokia and ST Ericsson have developed some very powerful hardware to run their state-of-the-art software.
Well the main reason why i think SF OS is better than winMo is because of java implementation, WM is still crap with running Java applications(has very basic APIs only). and with the advent of Project Capuchin and it's planned release for Symbian platform, that further increases my excitement over it. although i still love Android.
Posted by WhyBe
On 2009-02-18 11:05:54, razec wrote:
On 2009-02-18 10:59:17, carkitter wrote:
The Symbian Foundation S60 touch OS in the Idou is way ahead of WM IMO. I would never consider a WM device but would certainly like to have the Idou.
Plus, Nokia and ST Ericsson have developed some very powerful hardware to run their state-of-the-art software.
Well the main reason why i think SF OS is better than winMo is because of java implementation, WM is still crap with running Java applications(has very basic APIs only). and with the advent of Project Capuchin and it's planned release for Symbian platform, that further increases my excitement over it. although i still love Android.
Isn't that Capuchin stuff already in the X1? What's so great about Java based software anyway? It's inherently slower and more limited than native software.
Posted by koto
Xperia is also the state of the art. I, like Doministry, was uiq fan. P1 is great phone but a toy compared to x1. It is not hype that xpera is all about xperiance. Just to writte a message is pleasure, like driving nice Mercedes
And overal PDA functionality is amazing. I hope Idou will bring something new but for now I must say that I am very satisfied with xperia.
Posted by BigFeat
@Koto
I'm not sure if stating that a WinMobile device is more solid then one running Symbian. I have had more reliability with my Pxxx line of SE phones over the past decade then the Xperia. Unfortunately, the MS OS still has it's way to go for sustained stability and minimal crashing.
By the way; I don't think the P1 was ever intended to be in the realm of the X1. I would say the P9xx line was a better equivalent. I'm sure any Pxxx veteran owners who first picked up a P800 years ago would agree.
Posted by koto
I had P900, P910, P990 and P1. Those were good and fantastic phones. X1 is a completely new level, no phones any more but small laptops. Also I am glad that xperia has winmobile instead of UIQ. I wanted call recording, torrent downloading, real skype out calling, right mouse click functionality etc. From the other side some things are better in UIQ as percentige view of file transfer via bluetooth. There are flaws in winmobile, no doubt. It is beautiful xperia design - qwerty, screen, battery, optical mouse - that compensate those flaws. I admit I would never leave P1 for other current winmobile devices.