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Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2012-06-14 01:34
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On 2012-06-14 00:20:23, semo wrote:
A very interesting read about current state and trends in mobile patents (not spam
http://www.chetansharma.com/M[....]e_Chetan_Sharma_Consulting.pdf
It seems that both Ericsson and Sony are in the top group and together they are probably number one.
Try to compare with Apple, although IMO Apple does not care about this very much.
They would sue Sony as soon as thay find a good rea$$$on.


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And just as i thought WRT Nokia and Samsung.
If and when suing Sony brings any benefit or if they feel threatened by them, Apple will do it.

At this point its not about HOW MANY patents, its about the depth of the patents and how valid they are. Look where Apple is in that graph, a mere glance would have you thinking they cant sue anyone, but thanks to that UI of theirs which EVERYONE has "copied" in a way, they are able to sue left, right and center. Sony and many others are also guilty of violating some of Apple's patents, its down to Apple to choose who they sue. If manufacturers had for example stuck with non-touch UI i doubt Apple would have this power as many of their patents are touch and gesture related it seems.
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Posted: 2012-06-14 19:16
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I am not 100% sure on this, but it was after the patent war. Also that graph, it shows the patents thats been filed from 1995-2012 right? So i think it does not indicate total number of patents a company holds?
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Posted: 2012-06-14 20:54
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On 2012-06-14 19:16:26, djin wrote:
I am not 100% sure on this, but it was after the patent war. Also that graph, it shows the patents thats been filed from 1995-2012 right? So i think it does not indicate total number of patents a company holds?



I think you are correct. If you check on the US Patents Office website, the statistics they have by company are from 1995, which my guess would be is the source of this data. The annual reports from 1995 are here for those who are curious, interested or both. http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/reports_topo.htm
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Posted: 2012-06-15 21:55
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Because Sony (Ericsson) phones don't look anything like iPhones, while many samsung phones are obviously based on iPhones, in terms of looks.
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Posted: 2012-06-15 22:09
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Because Sony can not in any way threaten the leadership of Apple and Samsung. The main players are Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Huawei, LG.
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Posted: 2012-06-15 22:33
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It's more about patents and sony creates its own (not copying anybody). As somebody posted earlier, with Sony/S(E) backed by Ericsson and with S(E) own patent portfolio, a bigger counter suit is what you'll get for suing sony.

If it's about the threat, then why did Motorolla got sued? Sony/S(E) is around the same size as Motorolla then why is Motorolla a threat but Sony is not.
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Posted: 2012-06-16 01:10
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The lawsuits arent all about copying design, if some of you have actualy paid attention to many of the lawsuit details you'll find many of them have to do with things like how UI reacts when touched, radio tech etc... Some of these are things even Sony/SE violates, but they arent a real threat to Apple, so why waste time with them if they can chase Samsung, HTC, and Moto who pose a threat to them.

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As i keep saying, Motorola are a threat to Apple IN THE USA which is one of the biggest smartphone markets. Motorola are still pretty big in the USA and have a huge backing from the largest carrier in the USA, Verizon. Sony doesn't have the same sort of support, and now that Motorola is part of Google, Apple's arch enemy, they are a huge threat to them.
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Posted: 2012-06-16 02:30
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And Apple have NEVER copied ANYONE?? Never forget when the first ever iPhone came out and people rushing to the shops eager to get their hands on an iPod that makes calls. The thing was shit.

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Posted: 2012-06-16 06:22
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On 2012-06-16 02:30:00, Bonovox wrote:
And Apple have NEVER copied ANYONE?? Never forget when the first ever iPhone came out and people rushing to the shops eager to get their hands on an iPod that makes calls. The thing the shit.



Well in fact Apple copied Sony many times, and Samsung has copied Sony even more !! Sony should sue Apple and Samsung
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Posted: 2012-06-16 09:55
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Bono
They've all "copied"/taken ideas from each other at some points, but i doubt Sony wants to get into this whole lawsuit madness, not in their current state, unless they know they will indeed win.
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Posted: 2012-06-16 15:25
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On 2012-06-16 01:10:34, Tsepz_GP wrote:
you'll find many of them have to do with things like how UI reacts when touched, radio tech etc


Shouldn't they be sueing Google (Android OS) instead, then?
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Posted: 2012-06-16 20:08
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They should, but they know the best way to kill Android is to attack its largest OEMs. Apple, Oracle and Microsoft are trying to make Android expensive to license to OEMs so as to push them away from it.
Oracle have failed in such an epic way that even if they win what is left of the lawsuit the amount of Google's legal fees they have to pay are higher than the maximum they can get out the lawsuit.
Apple, have won some and lost others without any major impact.
Microsoft are the only ones who have really been successful, they already have the majority of Android OEMs paying royalties to them for IP infringement, except Sony, Moto, Huawei and a few others, you best believe they are in talks with the left over companies as we speak.
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Posted: 2012-07-10 17:49
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two more android tablet makers are forced into MS deal

http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]oid-Tablet-Makers-280390.shtml

the way the title above reads gave me a silly impression that MS owns Android instead of Google!?!

and still no Sony, it seems to me now that they're afraid of them since Coby is not exactly a significant company that produces android devices, yet MS is milking from them.
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Posted: 2012-07-10 18:30
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LG, Asus, Motorola and many others arent in there either, best believe Microsoft are probably in talks with all of them right now, incl. Sony.
i dont get why people here want to believe that these companies are "scared" of Sony.

Apple are targeting successful Android OEMs, paticularly in the US and Europe, namely Samsung and HTC.

Microsoft are after everyone, for royalties, who ever isn't paying now is probably in their hitlist, or in negotiations with them as we speak.
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Posted: 2012-07-10 18:55
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They should just attack Google Headquaters
If they want rid of Android OS so badly

What's the point of targeting Sony or LG, HTC
Or Samsung for a nigly part !!!

Apple and Google are 2 US giants
Sort it out u too !

As far as Sony goes I guess apple have
Some respect or decency to leave them
Alone but as Sony supply most of parts to
Tom, dick or Harry well
An "Apple" a day keeps the Doctor at Bay!
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